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Louise875 Seraphim
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:08 am Post subject: |
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I wholeheartedly agree with this, Nova.
I've had incidents where some don't take things the right way (and no, I'm not referring to people here), trying to judge my heart, and then pride gets in their way from admitting what they've done and apologizing. So all I can do is forgive and be kind to them. It's what we're called to do. My parents used to say in their younger years that they wouldn't go to bed if there was an argument without at least apologizing. One just never knows what the next day will be like or if there will be a next day. Life is short, and it's not worth it holding grudges. Far better it to act out of love and Christianity towards all. |
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lucyna *****


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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: Part II. CARITAS The Practice of Love ... (19-39) |
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ENCYCLICAL LETTER
DEUS CARITAS EST
Justice and Charity
26. Since the nineteenth century, an objection has been raised to the Church's charitable activity, subsequently developed with particular insistence by Marxism: the poor, it is claimed, do not need charity but justice. Works of charity—almsgiving—are in effect a way for the rich to shirk their obligation to work for justice and a means of soothing their consciences, while preserving their own status and robbing the poor of their rights. Instead of contributing through individual works of charity to maintaining the status quo, we need to build a just social order in which all receive their share of the world's goods and no longer have to depend on charity. There is admittedly some truth to this argument, but also much that is mistaken. It is true that the pursuit of justice must be a fundamental norm of the State and that the aim of a just social order is to guarantee to each person, according to the principle of subsidiarity, his share of the community's goods. This has always been emphasized by Christian teaching on the State and by the Church's social doctrine. Historically, the issue of the just ordering of the collectivity had taken a new dimension with the industrialization of society in the nineteenth century. The rise of modern industry caused the old social structures to collapse, while the growth of a class of salaried workers provoked radical changes in the fabric of society. The relationship between capital and labour now became the decisive issue—an issue which in that form was previously unknown. Capital and the means of production were now the new source of power which, concentrated in the hands of a few, led to the suppression of the rights of the working classes, against which they had to rebel.
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Louise875 Seraphim
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:26 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure that I fully understand social justice. Sometimes men will be hired because they have families, and then women won't, and yet they have families, too. That, to me, seems like a social injustice and how typically men will get paid more than women.
Then, too, if relatives of ours get paid more, there are those out there who won't hire some because of what other relatives earn, and that is yet another social injustice, as far as I'm concerned. A person should get paid based on what they do and have earned, not based on what someone else earns. Yet another social injustice as far as I'm concerned.
And still, there are those out there who work really hard physically, and yet they don't get paid as much as those who do brain work. That, to me, is another social injustice.
People should get paid based on the work they do, not based on what someone else does, what they look like, or even the piece of paper that they hold. Some without college degrees can do just as well as those who have one, based on experience.
And I am sure it is very true that those who are less fortunate would rather work and earn what they need rather than having somebody give them a proportion of donations. Yes, that's another social injustice.
I think of other social injustices where sometimes people will sue a group rather than the individual who is really responsible. Then they win it, yet another social injustice. I never understand those.
Still another social injustice are those who are denied medical coverage. It isn't right. Everyone should be entitled to good medical care. It is part of respecting the lives that God created.
Really, I guess the list could go on. But that's where Christianity can help in solving the injustices in society. 1 Cor. 13:4-8. Matthew 5:3-12 |
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lucyna *****


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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:30 am Post subject: Re: Part II. CARITAS The Practice of Love ... (19-39) |
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ENCYCLICAL LETTER
DEUS CARITAS EST
Justice and Charity
27. It must be admitted that the Church's leadership was slow to realize that the issue of the just structuring of society needed to be approached in a new way. There were some pioneers, such as Bishop Ketteler of Mainz († 1877), and concrete needs were met by a growing number of groups, associations, leagues, federations and, in particular, by the new religious orders founded in the nineteenth century to combat poverty, disease and the need for better education. In 1891, the papal magisterium intervened with the Encyclical Rerum Novarum of Leo XIII. This was followed in 1931 by Pius XI's Encyclical Quadragesimo Anno. In 1961 Blessed John XXIII published the Encyclical Mater et Magistra, while Paul VI, in the Encyclical Populorum Progressio (1967) and in the Apostolic Letter Octogesima Adveniens (1971), insistently addressed the social problem, which had meanwhile become especially acute in Latin America. My great predecessor John Paul II left us a trilogy of social Encyclicals: Laborem Exercens (1981), Sollicitudo Rei Socialis (1987) and finally Centesimus Annus (1991). Faced with new situations and issues, Catholic social teaching thus gradually developed, and has now found a comprehensive presentation in the Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church published in 2004 by the Pontifical Council Iustitia et Pax. Marxism had seen world revolution and its preliminaries as the panacea for the social problem: revolution and the subsequent collectivization of the means of production, so it was claimed, would immediately change things for the better. This illusion has vanished. In today's complex situation, not least because of the growth of a globalized economy, the Church's social doctrine has become a set of fundamental guidelines offering approaches that are valid even beyond the confines of the Church: in the face of ongoing development these guidelines need to be addressed in the context of dialogue with all those seriously concerned for humanity and for the world in which we live.
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | in the face of ongoing development these guidelines need to be addressed in the context of dialogue with all those seriously concerned for humanity and for the world in which we live. |
I was listening to the Patriach of Jerusalem speak about the difficulties in the Holy Land. He said He does not give up hope because God can do all things and he waits for the day when leaders are genuinely concerned for their people and have a true will for peace. He listed so many problems and said they are all possible to overcome if only people truly desired peace.
The Franciscan brothers have opened a school and university where Christians and Muslims can intergrate and learn about each other's religion. He pointed out that Muslims and Christians live as neighbours for years but do not know anything about each other. The young people are interested in dialogue and in working peacefully with other as they learn "who the other really is".
Bottom line, if people are seriously concerned for humanity and for the world we live in, with the grace of God, all obstacles can be overcome.
lisa. _________________ lisabeth
Father, in Jesus' sorrowful Passion, we thank You for Your infinite love & mercy upon all of humanity,
for Our Lady & for "choosing well".
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lucyna *****


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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: Part II. CARITAS The Practice of Love ... (19-39) |
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ENCYCLICAL LETTER
DEUS CARITAS EST
Justice and Charity
28. In order to define more accurately the relationship between the necessary commitment to justice and the ministry of charity, two fundamental situations need to be considered:
a) The just ordering of society and the State is a central responsibility of politics. As Augustine once said, a State which is not governed according to justice would be just a bunch of thieves: “Remota itaque iustitia quid sunt regna nisi magna latrocinia?”.[18] Fundamental to Christianity is the distinction between what belongs to Caesar and what belongs to God (cf. Mt 22:21), in other words, the distinction between Church and State, or, as the Second Vatican Council puts it, the autonomy of the temporal sphere.[19] The State may not impose religion, yet it must guarantee religious freedom and harmony between the followers of different religions. For her part, the Church, as the social expression of Christian faith, has a proper independence and is structured on the basis of her faith as a community which the State must recognize. The two spheres are distinct, yet always interrelated.
Justice is both the aim and the intrinsic criterion of all politics. Politics is more than a mere mechanism for defining the rules of public life: its origin and its goal are found in justice, which by its very nature has to do with ethics. The State must inevitably face the question of how justice can be achieved here and now. But this presupposes an even more radical question: what is justice? The problem is one of practical reason; but if reason is to be exercised properly, it must undergo constant purification, since it can never be completely free of the danger of a certain ethical blindness caused by the dazzling effect of power and special interests.
Here politics and faith meet. Faith by its specific nature is an encounter with the living God—an encounter opening up new horizons extending beyond the sphere of reason. But it is also a purifying force for reason itself. From God's standpoint, faith liberates reason from its blind spots and therefore helps it to be ever more fully itself. Faith enables reason to do its work more effectively and to see its proper object more clearly. This is where Catholic social doctrine has its place: it has no intention of giving the Church power over the State. Even less is it an attempt to impose on those who do not share the faith ways of thinking and modes of conduct proper to faith. Its aim is simply to help purify reason and to contribute, here and now, to the acknowledgment and attainment of what is just.
The Church's social teaching argues on the basis of reason and natural law, namely, on the basis of what is in accord with the nature of every human being. It recognizes that it is not the Church's responsibility to make this teaching prevail in political life. Rather, the Church wishes to help form consciences in political life and to stimulate greater insight into the authentic requirements of justice as well as greater readiness to act accordingly, even when this might involve conflict with situations of personal interest. Building a just social and civil order, wherein each person receives what is his or her due, is an essential task which every generation must take up anew. As a political task, this cannot be the Church's immediate responsibility. Yet, since it is also a most important human responsibility, the Church is duty-bound to offer, through the purification of reason and through ethical formation, her own specific contribution towards understanding the requirements of justice and achieving them politically.
The Church cannot and must not take upon herself the political battle to bring about the most just society possible. She cannot and must not replace the State. Yet at the same time she cannot and must not remain on the sidelines in the fight for justice. She has to play her part through rational argument and she has to reawaken the spiritual energy without which justice, which always demands sacrifice, cannot prevail and prosper. A just society must be the achievement of politics, not of the Church. Yet the promotion of justice through efforts to bring about openness of mind and will to the demands of the common good is something which concerns the Church deeply.
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Louise875 Seraphim
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:33 am Post subject: |
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| So in other words if someone does a wrong to someone else, maybe even to a group of people, that is an injustice then we should speak up about it and pray? |
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